The Church as Hermeneutic Community 7: Living Within God’s Imagination

Apologies for the long delay in posting the last part of the paper. The end of January and all of February were pretty crazy, we moved into a new house and had to get as much done on that as possible before I started an intensive course (3 credits in 3 weekends!) through SCUPE in Chicago.

While there are certainly other practices that could be employed to cultivate prophetic imagination to stimulate the church’s self-conception as the imagined, interpretive, missional hermeneutic community, I will close with an exploration of the traditional order of worship, consisting of liturgies of Word and Table. Starting at the end, rather than the beginning, Cavanaugh claims “to participate in Eucharist is to live inside God’s imagination.” It is to be incorporated into that which is truly real, the body of Christ.[1] Christians join in the sacrifice of Christ by uniting their own bodies with the sacramental Body. This practice, rightly seen, should result in formation of the imagination with regards to all aspects of communion, including social, political, and economic dimensions. The Eucharistic community provides an alternate imaginative framework, a counter-telos to the mythologies of state, individualism, and consumerism that would capture our imaginative faculties. This community comes into being as we learn not only to read the scriptures, but also to live in the world our encounter with scripture produces.[2] When understood as the incorporation of our bodies into Christ’s body, and hence as a political act related to the constitution of God’s reign in the church, the liturgy of Eucharist undermines the liturgies of the state that instill violence and call it peace.

In the same way, a reading of the New Testament that takes seriously both the context in which it was written, particularly that of Jewish oppression under the so-called Pax Romana, and our own setting in the late modern Pax Americana can inflame our imaginations about what it means to be God’s polis. Subtle references to the power structures of Rome are found throughout the New Testament, including Jesus’ calling attention to the image of Caesar and his inscription in Matthew 22, [3] Paul’s jab about the rulers not bearing the sword in vain in Romans 13,[4] and the sarcastic quotation of the Roman motto “peace and security!” in 1 Thessalonians 5. One of the most striking examples of counter-imperial imagination in the New Testament is found in the Christ hymn of Colossians 1:15-20, which implicitly refutes claims that Caesar was “savior,” “god-manifest,” and the one in whom all things were put in order. Walsh and Keesmaat call this passage “subversive poetry,” the purpose of which is to liberate the imagination of the church, resisting its domestication at the hands of Roman influence, in order to carry out the mission of Christ.[5]

This political reading of the text should not be seen as simply counter-imperial. On the contrary, it is simply the result of recognizing the primacy of Christ in all things, over and against those persons, institutions, and forces in the world that would usurp his place. Jesus’ resurrection inaugurates a new history, and it is within this stream of history that the church’s role as an extension of God’s mission in the world takes place.[6] Once the Word has been preached, the Eucharist celebrated, the blessing given, and the imagination transformed, the church is sent out the doors to carry this new imagination into the world.


[1] William T. Cavanaugh, Torture and Eucharist: Theology, Politics, and the Body of Christ (Wiley-Blackwell, 1998), 279.

[2] Will Samson, Enough: Contentment in an Age of Excess (David C. Cook, 2009), 92.

[3] “Tiberius, son of the Divine Augustus.”

[4] Rome’s official position was that Nero was a ruler “in whose hand the sword is idle, nay it is sheathed,” from Seneca’s De Clementia.

[5] Brian J. Walsh and Sylvia C. Keesmaat, Colossians Remixed: Subverting the Empire (InterVarsity Press, 2004), 82.

[6] Brueggemann, The Prophetic Imagination, 113.

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The Church as Hermeneutic Community 6: The Church as Interpretive Community

Classic texts found communities, are sustained by them, and in turn sustain them, and interpretation is like a communal dialogue (or better, multilogue) which takes place between individuals within a community and among community.[1] The Bible specifically is the “classic text” of the church, and the church in turn is the community of its interpretation. The Bible in some sense belongs to the identity of the church, and its interpretation is the conversation by which the church’s members and congregations seek to understand its subject: God, and our relation to God.[2]

Stanley Hauerwas notes that, in a like manner to how a Shakespearean play read by a high school class is quite different from the “same” play performed on a stage, so also Biblical texts can become “different” if read in different settings.[3] For example, it is one thing to read Paul’s letters to the Corinthians in the original setting, delivered to the congregation for the first time. It is quite another to read them as two among Paul’s many letters, collected into the canon of scripture as part of a yet larger collection of writings, and yet another to read them as scripture as a 21st century American individual with the fruits of hundreds of years of scholarship informing how the text is approached.

Hauerwas argues that the text of scripture can be interpreted only within the context of the interpretive community of the church.[4] In particular, he quotes the Roman Catholic tradition that scripture can only be rightly interpreted within the practices of a people “constituted by the unity found in the Eucharist.”[5] While this may sound authoritarian and restrictive to ears conditioned by modern liberalism, the purpose of this dogma is precisely the opposite: because there is an office of unity more profound than the text itself, “Catholics can encourage many readings of Scripture.”[6] Diversity of interpretation when it is done as the church in France, or the church in Kenya, or the church anywhere else is not a problem, but rather necessary for creating the unity found in the practices of the whole church. It is not the absolute, objective “meaning of the text” that interests the church, but rather “how the Spirit that is found in the Eucharist is also to be seen in Scripture.”[7] Privileging the mythical individual interpreter, who is considered to be capable of reading the text apart from time and place, without the good of the community in mind, denies the necessarily communal, socially constructed, and political nature of interpretation.[8]

Anabaptist traditions have historically had a similar conception of the role of community in interpretation. John Driver notes that the role of scripture in community was not just one of objective authority, but also a matter of interpretation. “The Anabaptists insisted that the Christian congregation is an interpreting community.”[9] The “gathered community” is the primary place where scripture is to be interpreted, with little “special confidence” in democratic processes of majority rule or individuals’ right to private interpretation.[10] Perhaps similar to Hauerwas’ criticism of liberalism and the myth of individual interpretation, Anabaptist principles of a Spirit-guided congregational setting for interpreting the scriptures represented a refusal to go along with the individualism of the 16th century Spiritualists.[11] No less than the varying representations of the ideal of community of goods, Biblical interpretation was a communal responsibility. Of course, certain individuals had more prominent roles in interpreting than others, but even then reading the scriptures was seen as taking place within the community gathered by the Spirit.

In addition to interpreting scripture, Kevin Vanhoozer proposes a part of the church’s interpretive task as practicing “everyday theology,” faith seeking understanding of everyday life.[12] He likens the task of cultural interpretation to Jesus’ injunction to know the “signs of the times,”[13] noting the need to understand the Zeitgeist as “discerning the mode of the Spirit’s presence in the spirit of the age.”[14] In the same way interpreting scripture is best seen as a work of community, so also is practicing everyday theology. We interpret culture from within culture, politics from within a political body, and the nation from within the nation.


[1] Westphal, 118.

[2] Ibid.

[3] Hauerwas, Unleashing the Scripture, 20.

[4] Ibid., 21.

[5] Ibid., 23.

[6] Ibid.

[7] Ibid.

[8] Ibid., 26.

[9] John Driver, Becoming God’s community (Brethren Press, 1981), 90.

[10] Ibid.

[11] Stuart Murray, Biblical Interpretation in the Anabaptist Tradition (Pandora Press, 2000), 157.

[12] Kevin Vanhoozer, “Introduction: What Is Everyday Theology?” in Kevin Vanhoozer, Charles Anderson, and Michael Sleasman, Everyday Theology: How to Read Cultural Texts and Interpret Trends, annotated edition. (Baker Academic, 2007), 16-7.

[13] Matthew 16:1-3.

[14] Vanhoozer, “Introduction,” 17.

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Why Obama couldn’t save us (and no one else can, either)

The Democrats (and a large chunk of moderates, apparently) believed Obama could save us from the problems of the Bush years. The more libertarian wing of the Republican party looks to Ron Paul. So many people labor under the delusion that who is president really matters worth a damn regarding the fundamental course of US policy, its role in the world, and the possibility of justice in this fragmented society.

It doesn’t.

It doesn’t matter who occupies the office, the office itself is embedded within a fundamentally unjust system that served from the VERY BEGINNING to take the power of government out of the hands of the people governed. Even if someone were a perfect candidate with entirely honorable intentions and brilliant policy beliefs, s/he would not be able to reverse the fundamental deficiencies of the American government that are not simply the result of our having stepped away from the Constitution over time – they are encoded in it. S/he would have to operate according to the same logic (the myth of virtuous America as the beacon of light and freedom to the world) as people like Bush, Obama, McCain, the Clintons, etc., even if s/he advocated different policies for pursuing it. I see no reason why we should support any candidate for office in that idolatrous, unjust system.

The words of Walter Wink are instructive here:

[T]he spirit of empire… perpetuates itself through a succession of rulers and… was so powerful, in the case of Rome, that it was able to sustain the madness of three emperors in one century (Caligula, Nero, Domitian). Nor can we leave aside all forms of institutional idolatry, whereby religion, commerce, education, and state make their own well-being and survival the final criteria of morality, and by which they justify the liquidation of prophets, the persecution of deviants, and the ostracism of opponents.

So formidable a phalanx of hostility demands spiritual weaponry, for it is clear that we contend not against human beings as such (“blood and flesh”) but against the legitimations, seats of authority, hierarchical systems, ideological justifications, and punitive sanctions which their human incumbents exercise and which transcend these incumbents in both time and power. It is the suprahuman dimension of power in institutions and the cosmos which must be fought, not the human agent. [This is the important part!] For the institution will guarantee the replacement of this person with another virtually the same, who despite personal preferences will replicate decisions made by a whole string of predecessors because that is what the institution requires for its survival. — from Naming the Powers: The Language of Power in the New Testament, 85-6.

Since the Constantinian shift, the church seems to have largely operated according to the logic of the world, with the goal being to take over the powers and principalities (ostensibly running them in a “more humane” fashion), leaving the ultimate goal of the reconciliation of all things and people to God for some projected-future point, rather than something to which the church is to strive in the world according to the logic of Christ the crucified king. We started looking forward to going away to be at home where God is, rather than preparing the world to become God’s home when Christ returns. We stopped looking to Christ to save us, and made peace on earth the work of empire, rather than of the church.

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“Turning King’s Dream into a Nightmare”

On MLK day I have adopted the practice of posting excerpts and full text from some of King’s lesser-known speeches to try to recapture the radicalism he represents in the face of his domestication at the hands of American elites and authorities. This year, I’m going to do something different. Chris Hedges has written an article that says many things I emphasize about King and his legacy, and I’m going to post excerpts from it with a full-text link at the bottom. Hedges explores the connection between King and Malcolm X and outlines the ways that, towards the end of his life, King began to approach some of Malcolm’s beliefs and discuss the idea that, rather than depending on white people to help them, black people needed to find ways to liberate themselves. Hedges engages the work of James Cone, whom I have cited elsewhere on this blog. Cone’s recent work on King and Malcolm X is definitely on my “to read soon” list.

Martin Luther King Day has become a yearly ritual to turn a black radical into a red-white-and-blue icon. It has become a day to celebrate ourselves for “overcoming” racism and “fulfilling” King’s dream. It is a day filled with old sound bites about little black children and little white children that, given the state of America, would enrage King. Most of our great social reformers, once they are dead, are kidnapped by the power elite and turned into harmless props of American glory. King, after all, was not only a socialist but fiercely opposed to American militarism and acutely aware, especially at the end of his life, that racial justice without economic justice was a farce.

“King’s words have been appropriated by the people who rejected him in the 1960s,” said Professor James Cone, who teaches at Union Theological Seminary in New York and who wrote the book Martin & Malcolm & America. “So by making his birthday a national holiday everybody claims him, even though they opposed him while he was alive. They have frozen King in 1963 with his ‘I Have a Dream’ speech. That is the one that can best be manipulated and misinterpreted. King also said, shortly after the Selma march and the riots in Watts, ‘they have turned my dream into a nightmare.’”

Read the rest of this article at Common Dreams.

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On use of the word “anarchism”

Thanks to Michael Iafrate, at Catholic Anarchy, for pointing me to this quote from Dorothy Day:

“The word anarchist is deliberately and repeatedly used in order to awaken our readers to the necessity of combating the ‘all-encroaching state,’ as our Bishops have termed it, and to shock serious students into looking into the possibility of another society, an order made up of associations, guilds, unions, communes, parishes, voluntary associations of men [sic], on regional vs. national lines, where there is a possibility of liberty and responsibility for all men.”

Dorothy Day, Catholic Worker, December 1949, cited in Mark and Louise Zwick, The Catholic Worker Movement: Intellectual and Spiritual Origins (New York: Paulist, 2005).

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The Church as Hermeneutic Community 5: Introducing Interpretive Communities

“Interpretive community” is a key concept in Stanley Fish’s writings on interpretation and criticism of texts. The concept of interpretive community is a strategy to engage the dilemma of interpretation in which the roles of “text” and “reader” struggle for the power to determine meaning. Faced with the reality that there are often as many readings of a text as there are readers, Fish explores various reader-response methods, as well as their benefits and problems, and comes to the conclusion that interpretational competition is never between “objectivity” and “interpretation” of the text but between interpretations that are acknowledged as such, and those that are “unaware” of themselves as interpretations, masquerading as “real” readings.[1] Faced with the problem of a never-ending spiral of interpretation-upon-interpretation that leaves no room for the possibility of an actual text, Fish asks how we explain these two “facts” of reading:[2]

1) The same reader will perform differently when reading two “different” (the word is in quotation marks because its status[3] is precisely what is at issue) texts, and; 2) different readers will perform similarly when reading the “same” (in quotes for the same reason) text. That is to say, both the stability of interpretation among readers and the variety of interpretation in the career of a single reader would seem to argue for the existence of something independent of and prior to interpretive acts, something which produces them.

Fish seeks to solve the problem by asserting that “both the stability and the variety are functions of interpretive strategies rather than of texts.”[4] Fish argues that these interpretive strategies are based upon “pre-reading” decisions in which the reader is predisposed to “find,” by looking for, “certain themes” that “confer significances” upon the text.[5] Interpretive strategies are employed prior to and during the act of reading. Instead of being a response to reading, they are the shape of reading and give texts their meaning. This does not deny that there is ‘something’ there upon which reading strategies are practiced, but it does emphasize that there is no such thing as a non-interpretive encounter with a text – to encounter a text is necessarily an act of creation.[6]

Interpretive communities, relatively stable groups made up of “those who share interpretive strategies” for creating meaning in textual encounters, explain the existence of similar strategies and ways of reading at various times, in various places.[7] Interpretive communities are stable but not static, shifting as new ways of reading are learned and people enter and leave. Fish recognizes this approach does not solve all the problems of interpretation, because any evidence brought forth to “objectively” support his claim would itself be an interpretation. Therefore, the only “proof” of membership in such a community is the nod of agreement within it.[8]

Fish illustrates his point with a story from the summer of 1971, when he was teaching two courses through the English Department of the State University of New York at Buffalo. The first course was in literary stylistics and theory, the second in interpretation of English religious poetry from the 17th century. During the first course, he had written a list of assigned authors on the board. For the second class, he left the names on the board, only adding a frame around it with the designation “p. 43.” When the students entered, he told them the list was a poem of the type they had been studying and asked them to interpret it. The students then proceeded to laboriously interpret the poem, successfully concluding it was a hieroglyphic poem posing an iconographic riddle, which they then answered.[9] It was not the objective presence of “poetic” qualities that led them to interpret the “poem,” but paying attention to the list in a poetic fashion.[10]

Merold Westphal proposes a related concept of interpretation he calls “relativist hermeneutics.”[11] Invoking Martin Heidegger, Hans-Georg Gadamer, and Paul Ricoeur, he begins with the notion that “we are always somewhere (socially, culturally, historically, linguistically) and never nowhere when we interpret.” While we can seek to become aware of our presuppositions and critique them, we can never do it in a way that is ‘absolute’ or separated from yet another position that is “somewhere,” there is no God’s-eye view.[12] Therefore, we cannot escape the circular nature of interpretation in which we are already located. We can move from one circle to another, but can never arrive at nowhere.[13] Of the three, Heidegger particularly radicalizes hermeneutics because, for him, interpretation “is not something we sometimes do but rather something that becomes fundamental to who we are and is characteristic of all modes of knowing.” In other words, all of reality can be likened to a text to be interpreted.[14]


[1] Stanley Fish, Is There a Text in This Class? The Authority of Interpretive Communities (Harvard University Press, 1982), 148-67.

[2] Ibid., 167-8.

[3] Regarding whether or not it makes sense to speak of “different” texts if, in the end, one is left with only interpretations, never the texts themselves.

[4] Ibid., 168.

[5] Ibid.

[6] Ibid., 170-1.

[7] Ibid., 171.

[8] Ibid., 173.

[9] Ibid., 322-5.

[10] Ibid., 326.

[11] Merold Westphal, Whose Community? Which Interpretation?: Philosophical Hermeneutics for the Church (Baker Academic, 2009), 35.

[12] Ibid.

[13] Ibid., 35-6.

[14] Ibid., 28n3.

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First reaction to Avatar

Tonight my wife and I went to see Avatar. I’m a bit of a film geek, though we hadn’t seen a movie in the cinema for quite some time (I think the last one we saw was Bolt). Because it had been so long, I didn’t feel bad about spending the extra money on the 3D version. This is my first reaction to the film, and I’ll likely post a more lengthy response after I’ve had some time to reflect.

Overall, it was ok. The visuals were stunning – definitely spend the extra $2 to see it in 3D if you’re going to go. The story isn’t good enough to carry it if you don’t have the extra visual pop the 3D brings to it. Also, while the 3D makes the computer animation really come alive it still wasn’t good enough to really enable me to suspend disbelief. Perhaps a combination of 3D and IMAX would have done the trick – the fact that the 3D visuals cut off along the projected plane of the bottom of the screen really damaged the illusion. Despite this, the film is a major technical achievement and a visual spectacle worthy of the term. Those of you who have read Society of the Spectacle will be aware of the double-edged potential implied by the word. ;-)

Regarding the story, it mostly consisted of tropes I’ve seen many times before, and they weren’t presented in ways that allowed me to overcome the basic straightforward use. Also, the film was so heavily steeped in white guilt, a rather superficial critique of colonialism, and the “myth of the noble savage” that I felt like it could have been a re-imagining of Dances With Wolves. The criticism of resource extraction processes was relevant, but I wonder how many people will truly be able to connect what they saw on screen with the truth about how much of what we have comes to be – including many materials involved in the production and viewing of the film and the computer on which I am typing this entry.

I have much more to say, but I will reflect more on my thoughts before making a more detailed entry later. I will conclude this review by saying I found it disturbing that the narrative of colonialism, while criticized, was barely substantially challenged. Really, all that happened is that the indigenous became the “good guys,” and the colonizers the “bad guys,” kind of the inversion of the classic Western archetype. The indigenous do not get to tell their own story; it is entirely framed by and from the perspective of the colonizers. In the end, it is one of the colonizers who has a change of heart, and he essentially saves them with a little help from his woman, who for once, to the film’s credit, takes heroic action on her own – though for the most part the film does little to challenge normal male-dominant warrior gender roles (women can kick ass, but only if they’re stick-thin and sexually available). And, of course, the myth of redemptive violence is utterly pervasive.

That’s not to say you shouldn’t see the film – I generally enjoyed the experience as a whole, and the truth is I don’t expect much from mainstream cinema in terms of challenging entrenched societal problems.

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The Church as Hermeneutic Community 4: Imagining the Church

Thanks so much to all of you who have responded to our needs after the fire, either in comments, emails, or other ways. As part of beginning to get back into the swing of some kind of normal life, I am now going to begin writing articles for the blog as I had been before. I will also continue to make updates as necessary regarding our process of recovery, but resuming my regular writing is itself part of the process of recovery. This is the next section of my paper, which begins to examine the imagination of the church in conversation with themes previously discussed from Anderson, Cavanaugh, and others.

If the church is to function as an alternative polis, the locus of a new politics regulated by the kingdom of God and the story of Jesus,[1] it is clear that a counter-imagination is necessary. The earliest church viewed itself as a “contrast society,”[2] pledging allegiance to Jesus, not Caesar, as Lord. However, in the “Constantinian turn” the distinctiveness of the church was collapsed into imperial power structures and effectively became a kind of chaplain to secular society.[3] “Constantinianism” names an orientation towards the meaning of history based on a mistaken concept of the relationship of Jesus to history, proceeding “as if what happened in the cross, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus had not profoundly altered history.”[4] Moreover, Constantinianism gives the church a way to act within history that is not determined by the lordship of Jesus.[5] In order to adequately be ‘decolonized’ from Constantinianism, the church must explore its own liturgies, traditional practices, scriptures, and history in ways that foster an alternative, prophetic imagination. Brueggemann calls prophetic ministry that which offers “an alternative perception of reality” that enables people to see their own history in the light of God’s story.[6]

It must be said that there are limits to what worship and ministry conceived as “anti-Constantinian” or “counter-cultural” can accomplish. If the goal is nothing less than the transformation of all creation, then the church’s mission cannot be entirely countercultural, if only for the simple reason that if over half of creation were to become included redemption would be the majority, not minority reality. More to the point, though, is that the church teaches that the work of Christ accomplishes God’s purposes for the cosmos, so any conception of the politics of the kingdom that limits itself to a strictly countercultural definition is necessarily inadequate. As John Howard Yoder said, “people who bear crosses are working with the grain of the universe.”[7] To conceive of the church primarily as a counter-polis against the modern state is to allow the state to define the church’s identity to such extent that the church is dependant on the state for its identity.[8] However, since the mythology of the state is itself derived from Christian theology in a sense, it is surely not an illegitimate exercise to bring the categories of imagination and imagined community to bear upon a political understanding of the church if this can in some way help re-conceive of the church as the earthly embodiment of the politics of God’s kingdom. Because of the important role interpreting scripture plays in this imaginative reconstruction, it will be helpful to examine the concept of the interpretive community before proceeding.


[1] Rasmusson, The Church As Polis, 187.

[2] Driver, Images of the Church in Mission, 31-5.

[3] Ibid., 36-42.

[4] Nathan R. Kerr, Christ History And Apocalyptic: The Politics of Christian Mission (Cascade Books, 2008), 6-7.

[5] Ibid.

[6] Walter Brueggemann, The Prophetic Imagination, 2nd ed. (Fortress Press, 2001), 116-7.

[7] John Howard Yoder, “Armaments and Eschatology,” Studies in Christian Ethics 1, no. 1 (1988): 58.

[8] In Christ History And Apocalyptic, 117-8, Kerr accuses Hauerwas of doing precisely that, at least in form. Kerr describes what he sees as this tendency in Hauerwas as an “eschatological failure” (122, emphasis his).

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“How Can We Help?”

Dear friends,

The question in the subject line is one we have been asked by dozens, possibly even hundreds of people in the past week and a half. Y’all have been so compassionate towards us, and so eager to help us start rebuilding after the fire that we’ve honestly been overwhelmed at times by your goodness. It means more than you know to hear about how your thoughts, prayers, and best wishes have been with us, and the grace and solidarity we have been shown has been nothing short of mind-blowing.

Some of you have made individual offers aimed at particular needs. We will be contacting you directly as soon as time permits. For everyone else, I have a few suggestions:

1) The most important thing is that you continue to keep us in your prayers and thoughts. More than anything, it is helpful to know that we are loved and cared for. Without the emotional and spiritual support we have received, I’m not sure how we would be getting by.

2) Since both of us are full-time students, the loss of our library has hit us especially hard. While we also had a number of books that were primarily for personal enjoyment (many works of fiction, including my budding graphic novel collection), the majority of our holdings were related to our studies. I had quite a number of works related to religion, philosophy, and other related subjects, and Gretchen lost many books related to physical sciences and library studies. It’s not unlike the situation in which a carpenter might find himself in if he were to lose his tools. The fine folks at Doulos Christou Press and the Englewood Review of Books have begun coordinating efforts to help us rebuild our collection, and if you would like to help with that you can check them out at http://erb.kingdomnow.org/rebuild-the-barr-family-library/. If you have books you think might be good to donate and would prefer to send them directly, you can comment on this post and I will reply via email. We would be happy to talk with you about whether or not particular titles would be useful. We don’t yet have a list of exact books that were lost, but we’re working on it.

3) Many of you have asked about needs for furniture, clothing, and the like. For right now, we are doing pretty well in the clothing department. Our immediate needs are pretty well met. In the longer term we will need to replace things like nicer clothes suitable for job interviews, meetings, and other, more formal, kinds of situations. Once we’ve had a chance to take a fuller inventory of what clothing we have and specific items we could use help with, one of us will give you an update. Regarding furniture, at the moment we don’t have any place to put it. Our most immediate need is finding a long-term housing solution, and once we’ve done that we can think more about furniture and the like. I will say that we will probably want to get as much of that as we can from closer sources, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to have a couch shipped from, say, Kentucky, when we can get one from a source here in northern Indiana. It would probably even be more cost-effective (to say nothing of ecological sensitivity!) to purchase furniture from the local Goodwill or Salvation Army stores than to send something so large such a long distance. So if you’re far away and were thinking about trying to give us a dresser or something, we would prefer for you to give items you don’t need to benefit a local cause – Lord knows they can probably use it. Feel free to give it in our name!

4) At this point, we would actually prefer that you donate towards the book fund (see 2, above) than give us money; however, we can still accept donations directly through the PayPal link on this website or you can send a check to us c/o Kern Road Mennonite Church (the address can be found on their website, http://www.krmc.net). Financial help is ALWAYS appreciated and useful.

5) If any of you knitters out there have an extra yarn swift/ball winder combination you’re willing to part with, Gretchen’s was lost in the fire. She really misses them. Also, she lost a lot of needles – I don’t know exactly what she needs, but if you reply to this post I can coordinate information.

Thank you again for everything, you have seriously all been amazing. We are truly humbled by the love we have been shown in this past week and a half.

Peace be with you,
Jason

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Trouble with the PayPal link?

I’ve been told a very small number of people are having trouble with the PayPal link. If you are having trouble, let me know and we will find an alternative way to contribute.

Also, while PayPal is great for making donations online via debit/credit card and electronic transfer, if you’re willing to mail a check to Kern Road Mennonite Church they are seeking a matching grant from a mutual aid fund. If that goes through, then not only would we not have to pay the minor administrative costs associated with PayPal, we would get double your donation. I feel compelled to mention here that the US Postal Service discourages sending cash via the mail.

I have more pictures from our visit to the site today, but I will update on that tomorrow as we’re exhausted and would like to think about something else for the rest of the evening.

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